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Re: Balance issues with minions

Post by Incanto on Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:54 am

Dummy works for trolls. Now I'm wondering if you run kingdom land while spawning weak monsters, with normal trolls in levelled gear if you could rake in the bricks.


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Re: Balance issues with minions

Post by belivingtheword on Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:26 am

Incanto wrote:Dummy works for trolls.

Would you please say what troll statistics the dummy shows?

Edit addition :
Just wanted to add that spawn level is a player attribute, not an attribute of your trolls.


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Re: Balance issues with minions

Post by Incanto on Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:41 am

It shows spawn level. But, when I have no weps, no oiyoi, my epic trolls have +zero gear the spawn level reads 26. Normal trolls with 26 gear read as spawn level 1. Seeing how a weak troll in 26 gear survived vs an epic monster, the spawn level doesn't relate to att/def level, as I originally thought. I just know from experience metalled +zero gear doesn't act like +zero gear on epic trolls. I would like to know where the 26 comes from in the first example, but in the meantime I'm definitely not giving trolls any upgraded gear, for many reasons.


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Re: Balance issues with minions

Post by belivingtheword on Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:10 am

That is a sound conclusion : troll gear can effect player spawn level .

It's too bad trolls negate goldsmith lantern, Krampus hat score, Valkyrie wings, etc when they get the killing blow. I can understand not giving them gear, especially since they drop gear on the ground upon death.


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Re: Balance issues with minions

Post by Incanto on Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:31 am

I do equip my trolls, just not in levelled gear. I give them honed daggers and poison scale mail in SCs, for example. They work great vs. cultists because the blast doesn't hit them (with the jump protect blast doesn't hit you either, if you don't move, so they clear the room before I move often), the rift from the guardian is their worst enemy. Mag boots, for me, are essential in helping un-eq them, and I usually use rings, troll attack & defense.


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Re: Balance issues with minions

Post by belivingtheword on Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:34 am

Incanto wrote:I do equip my trolls, just not in levelled gear. I give them honed daggers and poison scale mail in SCs, for example. They work great vs. cultists because the blast doesn't hit them (with the jump protect blast doesn't hit you either, if you don't move, so they clear the room before I move often), the rift from the guardian is their worst enemy. Mag boots, for me, are essential in helping un-eq them, and I usually use rings, troll attack & defense.


Great advice. Also, use them vs stone golems.


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Re: Balance issues with minions

Post by Incanto on Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:00 pm

I missread your previous post word. It wasn't the level of the gear that affected the spawn reading in PG, it was the troll's level (epic vs. normal).

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