Need Help; Rerolling Ninja Return to Strategy

[sirbilliam]

I'm looking at rerolling Ninja because I'm tired of the slow paced life as a warrior. Yeah i can grind forever, but its just slow and dull. Im not very knowledgable about Ninjas but it was suggested by a couple people and obviously, the speed and range is a huge plus to me. Any suggestions, ideas or theorycrafting would be helpful!
Thanks

[{KØB§}~Valdis™]

I'm looking at rerolling Ninja because I'm tired of the slow paced life as a warrior. Yeah i can grind forever, but its just slow and dull. Im not very knowledgable about Ninjas but it was suggested by a couple people and obviously, the speed and range is a huge plus to me. Any suggestions, ideas or theorycrafting would be helpful!
Thanks

First of all, I'm willing to bet that your speed as a warrior is not optimized. A warrior in axe, bp, + shield only goes at 55 m/s. BUT, switch to axe + scale with boots and a grand land speed ring, and you are going at 130 m/s. You should only be using dragon shield for shield charges (temporarily), and INSTEAD of scale in sewers, groves, and against Furymane, and BOTH on water (where everyone besides explorer has the same speed regardless of gear) and for PvP.

Warrior typically does an avg. of axe +3 whilst ninja does shuriken +3 dmg. at all times. Other than against aqua/corrupted/dark cultists/dark bosses, axe does more dmg than shuriken in EVERY other category. A group of three warriors with the right gear and skills will out damage a group of 3 ninjas.

You have range as a warrior - you have shield charge. And you can also use archery 2 with longbow when needed.

Have you ever played any classes other than warrior before? How are your skill points currently allocated? What is your current gear?

[sirbilliam]

Carry honed scailmail, poison dragon shield and dead axe. When roaming I usually just have axe and shield to charge, and scail for the few seconds its on cd unless I'm lazy and just smash it out shield and axe. And like you said, both on water.

As far as rings go, I use a dragon attack def ring and a mining ring as those are what I've found and make decent use of. Have magnet boots equipped most of the time when I land hunt.

No I have not played any classes other than warrior to date. It's fun when I feel like just smashing attack and doing something else but it's not very engaging when I've got nothing else to do.

Thank you for replying to help out

[{KØB§}~Valdis™]

Sir Billiam, I invite you to wear regular boots instead of magnetic boots. Unless you have metallurgy 3 (for the 3% chance to create iron slag), mag boots have low profit considering the extra time it takes to run over the gear (as well as the 30 m/s less land speed by not wearing regular boots).

In terms of minions, consider using at most dusk trees (with a +3 to philo attk ring). You are slowing down your dmg by using skeletons. Their dmg is relative low, and you have lots of hit points... you WANT to get damaged so you can apply maximum damage.

Better to use a poison axe with a +2 poison ring than using dead axe, imo.

Also, if you share your skills, I can make recommendations to maximize your hunting.

Did I fully answer your questions?

[sirbilliam]

I do have Metal3 I am looking at getting a new weapon. Ive just been using a dead weapon to level. Im like 4k exp from 35. I have a few poitns tossed in random places for hunting/gathering atm. The dead axe is getting on my nerves for grinding, but i was looking at potential class swap so i didnt know if i would need to invest the resources.

Shield charge 3
Combat Train 3
Metallurgy 3
Taunt 3
Cleave 3
Troodont doctrine 2
Troll Lore 3
Dragon Master 3
Warrior 5

[{KØB§}~Valdis™]

I do have Metal3 I am looking at getting a new weapon. Ive just been using a dead weapon to level. Im like 4k exp from 35. I have a few poitns tossed in random places for hunting/gathering atm. The dead axe is getting on my nerves for grinding, but i was looking at potential class swap so i didnt know if i would need to invest the resources.

Shield charge 3
Combat Train 3
Metallurgy 3
Taunt 3
Cleave 3
Troodont doctrine 2
Troll Lore 3
Dragon Master 3
Warrior 5

You are sacrificing lots of hunting income for the,sake of an early focus on mag boots. I see that you have no bonus skill pts from either gems or tokens. Minions steal your tokens, so it will take you some time to earn 3000 tokens. But you should be easily be able to get 3 or 4 pts from gem and 1 or 2 from tokens asap. Coupled with the pt. from level 35,, that's 5 to 7 pts.

First get Serenity 3 right away. That's lots of time waiting to go green every dungeon room and flag. After that, I think you want to drop your minion skills until you have plenty of pts from tokens. So dragon 3 to 2, troll 3 to 2. Get troodont 3, and then Hunters Eye 2. My personal opinion is that you should drop metallurgy 3, and get hunter's eye 3 and archery 2 (depending on how quickly you gain bonus sp).

And get a poison axe and iced longbow right away (ice all those monsters that run away, like yeti, ghoul, wolf, etc).

OTOH, if you.don't like the melee style of fighting that much, go assassin if you do a bunch of SC every week, or go ranger. And, no.matter what, keep your honed scale,,axe and, shield. Every class can use scale against certain monsters, axe is the best vs larva, buildings and troll huts, and you want a,good.shield against silk burrowers.

[{§}~♥Tammy♥]

Val you should ask gold for all these analysis XD
but you know i love you right?

[Dr.Jeremy]

Ninja had it's day, that day is over.
Recent changes have done this to ninja:
Terrible defence
Ice kills your defence even further
Shuriken deals -8 damage (yes, minus) to no eyes/ crawlers/ Mags and at best average damage to everything else
Kiting is much more difficult than it used to be

[{KØB§}~Valdis™]

Ninja had it's day, that day is over.
Recent changes have done this to ninja:
Terrible defence
Ice kills your defence even further
Shuriken deals -8 damage (yes, minus) to no eyes/ crawlers/ Mags and at best average damage to everything else
Kiting is much more difficult than it used to be

Ninja can wear scale or bp and keep their speed but lose dodge. They move faster.in heavy armor (esp scale) than all other classes move in their NORMAL armor.

Low dmg to no eye/crawler/mag is not exclusive to shuriken. ALL ranged weapons.have the same dmg profile against these 3. Ninja can always use melee weapons and/or minions when necessary.

What has changed about kiting that makes it more difficult? A ninja in scale acts identically to a militia for PvE purposes. As a militia, I don't find it difficult to kite when needed.

[{KØB§}~Valdis™]

Val you should ask gold for all these analysis XD
but you know i love you right?

Kisses! Love you back!