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Questions about mechanics of Dodge and some Rings

Post by Drem on Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:58 pm

1) Does it really work for any Dodge chance (not only for OMA but for Specialization's Dodge like Druid & Thief have)?
2) And if answer is "YES", in case of Druid using OMA lvl.3, Tunic and Dodging Grand, does it mean that Druid will receive +5% bonus to each Dodge (OMA & Druidic feature) chances?
3) Some questions regarding Rings:
- does Spider Atk/Def Ring works against Spider Queen?
- does the Rings against Aquarians and Corrupt Ones also affects Dark Cultist and other Sunken City's inhabitants?
- does the Rings against certain species of Monsters affects Legendary versions (Artimus, Beridan - Dragons, Lilia - Sirens, Eternus - undead)?
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Re: Questions about Dodging/Tumbler Ring

Post by belivingtheword on Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:06 am

Druid and oma Dodge do not stack, so whether the ring enhances one or both dodge abilities is pragmatically a moot point.


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Re: Questions about Dodging/Tumbler Ring

Post by Drem on Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:54 am

Ok. Can someone (from devs?) clarify here what exactly "don't stack" mean here. Because I never seen clear enough explanation, now I'm living in belief that Druidic and OMA Dodges chances simply doesn't sum up, working as unrelated attempts to dodge (so it's not 60% Dodge but two separate abilities with 30% chances). Am I wrong?


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Re: Questions about Dodging/Tumbler Ring

Post by belivingtheword on Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:04 am

Two dodge attempts on the same attack? That would be 30% dodge for the first attempt, plus 0.7*0.3=0.21 or 21% likely to dodge the second attempt for a 51% dodge probability. In theory, I don't think that's what perblue intended. In praxis, I could see the coding may have ended up this way. What is your experience with dodging?


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Re: Questions about Dodging/Tumbler Ring

Post by Drem on Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:33 am

Yes, that's the way I'm understand mechanic of Druidic Dodge right now. Though things are more complicated than simply *0.7, I guess.
I am not using OMA and ain't Druid, so that's a mystery for me, to be honest.

Oh, and meanwhile I came up with one more question regarding Rings: does Spider Atk/Def Ring works against Spider Queen?


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Re: Questions about some Rings' mechanics

Post by [Hobos]Kawigi on Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:10 am

"Doesn't stack" means only the higher dodge % is used. If you have 30% dodge from OMA and 30% dodge as druid, you have 30% dodge total.


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Re: Questions about some Rings' mechanics

Post by Drem on Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:11 pm

Thanks for answers,
how about Spider Rings?


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Re: Questions about some Rings' mechanics

Post by K'tilqr(Mrs.MarkB) on Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:18 am

rings don't stack. so a minor with +1 attack and a major with +2 attack will only give you +2 attack. however you can benefit from a defence and an attack at the same time. I love my dragon slaying dragon (and it's only a major!)


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Re: Questions about some Rings' mechanics

Post by belivingtheword on Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:07 pm

Buying matching stat grand rings like in my trophies! ;-)

A +1 weapon stacks with the +3 atk to monster. I believe the dragon ring works with all species of dragon, so the spider ring should work with all spiders.


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Re: Questions about some Rings' mechanics

Post by K'tilqr(Mrs.MarkB) on Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:24 am

I can vouch that the dragon ring works on yanglong, but I haven't tried a spider ring on the queen spider, mainly because with my other rings I havent bothered.

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